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The sky inside a stone, Part 2. Spaciousness

1. Introduction: "A visionary medium"
2. Lyrical mysticism: Andrew Harvey
a. a sea
b. oneness
c. love
d. prenatal mother
e. pragmatics of contact
3. The TSK vision
a. what it is
i. background
ii. metaphysics plus meditation disciplines
iii. the human intention
b. TSK aspects
i. space in TSK: openness
ii. time: "expressive creativity"
iii. knowledge
c. rich embodiment
i. being space: what a body is
ii. 'ego': being tight/solid/locked
iii. being space contacting space
iv. "being is nourishing"
v. 'being' or 'experiencing' rather than I and it: a unified state
vi. feeling the quality of a time as such
vii. focal setting: 'a space' and Great Space
viii. no outside-standers
ix. presence
d. practices
i. nonverbal attention
ii. giant body exercise


Part 2: Spaciousness: the brimming is of here and now

This workshop turned out to be discussion-based. These were talking points:

1. "A visionary medium"

I saw the possibility of a visionary medium through which a common ground could be found in the pursuits of knowledge carried out by the various sciences and religions. Tarthang Tulku

The common background of microphysics and depth psychology is as much physical as psychic and therefore neither, but rather a third thing, a neutral nature . Jung Mysteriam coniunctionis Collected Works para 768

Questions in Part 2:

  • Assuming a Wave Structure of Matter vision of physical reality, can we experience the ocean of dynamic space as such? Should we want to?
  • If we were to understand ourselves as patterns immersed in the fabric of space, rather than objects with space between us, would that change the way we think of ourselves in daily life?

Below are two kinds of reply, one devotional and ecstatic, the other more sober in tone.

2. Lyrical mysticism: Andrew Harvey

each thing was made of the same substance, was moving and breathing and shining and emerging in and from the same vast, quiet Body.

Andrew Harvey b.1952, proudly gay, childhood in India and England, poet, youngest ever fellow of an Oxford college where he taught Shakespeare and French poetry. Going back to India in his twenties led him to experiences he described in two exceptional books, A journey in Ladakh in 1983 and the one quoted below, Hidden journey from 1991.

The passages excerpted below are intended as a bridge between the space wave physics described in part 1 and this workshop offering a more psychological and philosophical version of what seems to me to be a similar vision.

These excerpts are taken from passages in which Harvey is describing intense experiences he had when he was being taken around the bend by devotional practices in relation to a young woman guru.

a. a sea

a clear, crystalline sea of soft fire

I watched the sea rearing and falling and listened to that great deep sound of creation and destruction

looking at the sea from within it seeing myself breaking and glittering in a thousand waves before me. All morning this breaking and glittering had gone on in me.

The waves and the wind and the whole moonlit creation singing om a thousand thousand intermingled oms, loud, soft, high, low

pouring light into us different lights for different needs

b. oneness

that sea, and a wave of it, and all the other waves too

The whole world is white light.

intricate and exquisite interrelatedness of all events

All this is me. You looking at it are looking at it within me. These eyes you are seeing my face with are my eyes. You are looking at yourself within me with your real eyes.

c. love

In Telegu we have a song: "Love can melt the stone, can turn the mountain to water."

I felt the whale feeling my terror and sending toward me those great warm healing waves of energy sending me through the sunlit water wave after wave of what I can only call love, a silent, strong, immense, impersonal love.

soft, fiery tenderness has broken all over my being, a fire-water of love

d. prenatal mother

the child is a dolphin in the sea of light

I am in her body, I said to myself.

I am inside her vast body

as if a quiet wave of light has broken out from her and foamed up over everything

She is completely crystalline, every outline clear, sharp, crisp

> Envisioning what's thought of as cosmic reality as a mother evokes our youngness, and that can be a way to evoke a state in which our own structure is more integral.

e. pragmatics of contact

The only way to keep her energy is by continual inward prayer makes the being flexible enough to take the power poured into it and to make the subtle adjustments necessary to keep it active. Everything at first is experimental.

the duty of the present moment the present moment is always overflowing with immeasurable riches your faith will measure it out to you; as you believe so you will receive.

3. The TSK vision

Tarthang Tulku 1977 Time, space and knowledge: a new vision of reality Darma Publishing

a. what it is

Being = Time, Space and Knowledge

Being as knowledge, space, and time there, but never as a thing

The openness of space, the lively, expressive quality of time, the clarity of knowledge, are being

i. background

Tarthang Tulku b.1938. eastern Tibet. Refugee, America since 1969. Established the Nyingma Institute in Berkeley and Odiyan in northern California, Dharma Publishing.

Secular Buddhist metaphysics from a Tibetan Tantric tradition.

Nyingma-pa the oldest tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, emerging from the older shamanic tradition of Bon.

ii. metaphysics plus meditation disciplines

As I became more familiar with Western concepts, particularly those found in the sciences, I saw the possibility of a visionary medium through which a common ground could be found in the pursuits of knowledge carried out by the various sciences and religions.

Such a ground could serve to increase each group's appreciation for the other, and thus even facilitate the search for knowledge itself. This presentation, then, is not intended to be a presentation of traditional Tibetan thought; it does not belong under the heading of any specific philosophy or religion. It may, however, help to clarify some of the issues of traditional meditative disciplines.

More psychological, phenomenological than the Wave Structure of Matter vision in its metaphysics.

> Notice that the physics retains a flavor of materiality because of its origins, and the Tibetan vision retains a flavor of "consciousness" because of its different origins, although both visions explicitly declare they don't hold with material-immaterial duality.

iii. the human intention

as a unified view of existence, this vision can perhaps make possible the lived-out experience of the full spectrum of human values - of what it means to be a human being.

'opening' to an appreciation of the vastness of Being within and as each thing

Distinction between lower time space and knowledge, and what he calls Great Time, Great Space and Great Knowledge

If we can read Great Space, Time and Knowledge, we will no longer have to rely exclusively on technological hardware, psychology, hardware, medicine or religion. We can learn to use the three principle factors of our existence, Space, Time and Knowledge, knowingly rather than haphazardly.

confidence, strength, and sufficiency

fresh, sharp and spontaneous

an integrated natural intelligence, unfragmented into reason, emotions, sensations, and intuition . Exploring our realm of experience with such an intelligence . integrating a theoretical approach with one which is more experiential

natural tendencies of our energies to flow toward the exploration of understanding and beauty

recognize that we are part of a brilliant and vigorous reality

We can decide and act with complete propriety and utter spontaneity acts naturally fulfilling both to ourselves and others.

b. TSK aspects

I can see two essential similarities between TSK and WSM visions.

  • Both are tending to get away from mind/body, physical/nonphysical, objective/subjective, sacred/profane dualities.
  • Both are trying to get away from the prevalent solid-object-in-empty-space structural metaphor.

further understanding shows all situations to be given as 'time' in such a way that time and space are the central facts

i. space in TSK: openness

How this vision is like WSM: space is not a container but a ground, not passive but active.

a providing without provider

Space, which is primordially peaceful, open an open-ended accommodating of various views, all welling up, floating, gathering within space a serene explosion of expanding creativity each dancer leaps up, draws apart, and retires, while remaining inseparable from the nourishing expansiveness of space.

Your discovery that "everything is space" is itself space.

ii. time: "expressive creativity"

Time is often imagined as space: something we travel through, from the past to the future. In both WSM and TSK, though, time is the activity of space - its inherent, self-generating dynamism.

Change is OF space rather than IN space.

difficult to see reality in a time-flow rather than rather than in an 'object-as-potent-agent' manner

Even the physical fabric of our world ultimately derives from the energy of 'time' There are no separate 'things' or observers of things. Time itself reveals all objects, observers, characteristics, and meanings.

There may be a way for these regularities to be viewed as simply an expression of the structure of time.

it then becomes possible to work directly with this 'time' (which is neither subjective nor objective) and to enjoy more 'power,' more options, and the capacity to implement them, in every conventional sense.

Great Time is not a set-up or a mysterious force. We might say it is the inseparable partner of Great Space, the other member of the primordial marriage and love affair.

iii. knowledge

We can do much more than rent some tiny room in Space - Space provides the opportunity to open up everything. All the activity and characteristics of this opening are Time. When we understand Space and Time a little better, then we can see that whatever we perceive, whatever there 'is,' is Knowledge.

Great Knowledge is the immediate and knowing dimension of all reality and experience. It is the interplay between the openness of Space and the expressive creativity of Time.

Any conscious experience is usually considered to be a function of systems that are not (and cannot) themselves be part of the content of that experience. As an alternative to this picture, it is possible that some kind of 'knowing' is the primary fact of embodiment.

In cultivating a new type of 'knowing' faculty we need to counteract the usual emphasis on stable and opaque 'things'. We can do this by encouraging an interest in interactions and also an appreciation of translucence.

c. rich embodiment

What a body is, what the potentials of a body are, what well-being is:

Our way of relating to our bodies is often very rigid and tends to restrict our potential as embodied beings. Our attitudes and investigations of the body often perpetuate either a mechanical or a 'ghost in the machine' perspective. The 'self' is the only thing that is allowed to 'know' in such a picture. Everything that supposedly surrounds and interacts with it must be seen as objects which are merely 'known.' However, this rather frozen picture can be thawed. It is possible to allow a greater measure of liveliness, clarity, and intimacy with our surroundings to replace the isolated appearances of 'body,' 'mind,' and 'world'.

Our bodies are a central focus for our experiences as human beings. Therefore it is important to carefully examine what typically makes up our conception of a 'body'

emergence of a 'knowingness' which places us in touch with the total phenomenon of human embodiment

possibilities of experience given by the fact that we are bodies in a universe

i. being space: what a body is

begin to reveal this embodiment as a presence within 'space,' 'presenced' by 'time'

The body as a subarea of space - an intensely active felt texture

ii. 'ego': being tight/solid/locked

ordinary awareness and its clumsy conceptual structures

releasing limitations that are made by "insistence on indexing knowingness to a tiny 'knowing self' or 'mind'

consolidation and defense of the ego

ordinary awareness and its clumsy conceptual structures

'Ego' seems to mean something like self imagined a certain way -

iii. being space contacting space

Claim that something like the WSM vision can be directly experienced:

contemplating space we can reach a kind of space that is, in more than a symbolic way, the ground of everything. where ordinary awareness and its clumsy conceptual structures are inoperative

iv. "being is nourishing"

appreciation of the natural presence and flow of communion - appreciative capacity built on the broadest possible base

fulfilling character of experience

being taken as a flowing gift rather than achieved possession

v. 'being' or 'experiencing' rather than I and it: a unified state

Can we drop the objective-subjective distinction?

From Guenther's introduction

of absolute objectivity ( reductive naturalism) or of absolute subjectivity ( deductive idealism). common to both is the bogus dichotomy of subject and object. But 'experience' antedates the distinction between subjectivity and objectivity, between interior and exterior, because it is neither a subject nor an object and has neither an interior nor an exterior. As a matter of fact, experience is not a thing, and the interiority of a constituting subject or transcendental ego, as well as the exteriority of a constituted object, are 'latecomers'. The distinguishing qualities of 'the presence of a subject' and 'the presence of an object' are results of later (thematic) construction. xxiv-xxv

Meditation's attitude of watching the whole of experiencing as foreground, all together, like on acid, not thought of as either outside or inside.

Experiencing it as creating itself in the moment, what had been thought of as 'me' and 'it,' but neither, just brimming is

vi. feeling the quality of a time as such

vii. focal setting: 'a space' and Great Space

indefinitely many spaces resulting from focal settings

appearance of objects only by means of focal set

encounter a very deep and expansive space

a more subtle and inclusive sort of space

viii. no outside-standers

ix. presence

the tendency to look elsewhere, outside or behind has died away and has been replaced by an utterly complete and positive presence.

newly born within space and time, second by second

Suggesting experiencing being as creating itself in the moment, what had been thought of as 'me' and 'it' now taken as just brimming is.

d. Practices

i. nonverbal attention

ii. The giant body exercise [pp.21-46]

We may begin the exercises by 'imagining', but may progress beyond that to learn to 'know' in new and quite incontrovertible ways. Our 'knowing' is usually a simple conjuring up of conventional elements; but we may now learn, instead, more about how the conventional world of appearance merges and unfolds in terms of bodies, knowers, and things known. This new type of knowledge may be concerned more with an open field or dimension - which makes it possible to take up various points of view - than with the observed objects deriving from such particular points of view. Perhaps there is a balance possible between these two concerns.

Entertain in your mind's eye the image of a giant human body . Visualize it as being very alive and real, and try to see the physical form in as much detail as possible. Concentrate very sensitively and take your time in building up a clear image.

Once your awareness has stabilized somewhat, imagine yourself moving closer to the giant and entering it so you can see its internal organs.

Examine the internal details of each of these structures.

Neither the body nor any of its structures, systems and subsystems are solid 'things'. They are not regions demarcated by opaque surfaces that are filled inside with dense, inert 'stuff.' A change in our usual focus shows each discrete structure or region to be largely space.

Move through the 'walls' or surfaces demarcating particular cells and molecules. Investigate the microworld of atoms and subatomic particles.

Notice that all structures interact with other structures, and that each particular 'structure' is itself only a region marked out by (smaller) interacting structures. Use this type of investigation to open up or enter all opacities and surfaces which delineate a 'structure' or 'thing.' Continue moving through these defining surfaces until all of them become completely open . Allow the particularity and precision of the surfaces to remain, but as shining outlines, translucent boundaries and interfaces. Move freely through these interfaces.

Assume a position outside the body, and view it in this translucent aspect, a nesting of outlines within outlines. Try to encompass all of the body's organization simultaneously within this vision.

Consider the possibility of entertaining this vision without its being limited to a single angle or point of view; try to see the body from all directions and levels simultaneously.

And so on ...

 


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